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		<title>By: INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories &#187; &#8216;Hello, Garci&#8217; lawyer to be promoted as judge?</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-30155</link>
		<dc:creator>INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories &#187; &#8216;Hello, Garci&#8217; lawyer to be promoted as judge?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the tapes, Bedol spoke to Garcillano at least twice, on May 29 and June 1, 2004. He was referred to in calls by Garcillano on the following dates: May 25, 26, 29 and 30, and June 1 2004. (Transcripts of the conversations can be read here.) The conversation that supposedly took place between Garcillano and Arroyo at 9:47 a.m. on May 29 had her asking about the extent of her defeat in Cotabato City. Garcillano replied, “Hindi ho siguro sosobra ng (It probably wouldn’t exceed) forty, Ma’am. Nag-usap na kami ni Atty. Bedol….Kami ni Atty. Bedol, nag-usap ho ngayon (Atty. Bedol and I talked just now). But I’ll give you the exact figure ma’am in a little while, para ma-ano ninyo.” The final outcome of the Cotabato City vote was Arroyo: 8,510; Poe, 29,417. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the tapes, Bedol spoke to Garcillano at least twice, on May 29 and June 1, 2004. He was referred to in calls by Garcillano on the following dates: May 25, 26, 29 and 30, and June 1 2004. (Transcripts of the conversations can be read here.) The conversation that supposedly took place between Garcillano and Arroyo at 9:47 a.m. on May 29 had her asking about the extent of her defeat in Cotabato City. Garcillano replied, “Hindi ho siguro sosobra ng (It probably wouldn’t exceed) forty, Ma’am. Nag-usap na kami ni Atty. Bedol….Kami ni Atty. Bedol, nag-usap ho ngayon (Atty. Bedol and I talked just now). But I’ll give you the exact figure ma’am in a little while, para ma-ano ninyo.” The final outcome of the Cotabato City vote was Arroyo: 8,510; Poe, 29,417. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: expilad</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-1474</link>
		<dc:creator>expilad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my only question regarding about all the apparent corruption in our government is: Is there any hope that the Philippines will find an honest person in the whole country who really cares about serving the people and improving their lives. Also someone who do not covet a government position only to enrich themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my only question regarding about all the apparent corruption in our government is: Is there any hope that the Philippines will find an honest person in the whole country who really cares about serving the people and improving their lives. Also someone who do not covet a government position only to enrich themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: almondreign22</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-1472</link>
		<dc:creator>almondreign22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't heard the said tape yet but from what i observe about malacanang's reactions, parang totoong si gloria nga ung nasa tape, if it's not her why would bunye react or brought the tape out even before someone blurted it out. and in fact it's easy to deny it if it wasn't her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard the said tape yet but from what i observe about malacanang&#8217;s reactions, parang totoong si gloria nga ung nasa tape, if it&#8217;s not her why would bunye react or brought the tape out even before someone blurted it out. and in fact it&#8217;s easy to deny it if it wasn&#8217;t her.</p>
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		<title>By: tobebs</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>tobebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is BEDOL and DOBLE one? Yes they're one in fooling the filipino people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is BEDOL and DOBLE one? Yes they&#8217;re one in fooling the filipino people.</p>
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		<title>By: taratitot</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-1467</link>
		<dc:creator>taratitot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kung sino man ang maniwala sa tape, lalo na ang mga namumuno sa gobyerno, sana ay paniwalaan ang kabuuan ng tape. kung may kakasuhan dahil sa pag-iingat o pagwiretap ng kontrobersyal na tape, sana ay kasuhan din o imbestigahan ang mga inaakalang nagmamay-ari ng mga boses dun sa tape. lalo na ang dep't of justice na kung saan ang lahat ng mamamayang pilipino ay makakakuha dapat ng hustisya (justice).
 ako po ay naniniwala na ang dep't of justce ay hindi lupon ng mga abogadong tagapagtanggol lamang ni gloria o ng sinumang magiging pangulo ng bansa.
 sana ay matimbang ng husto kung sino ba ang higit na nangangailangan ng hustisya lalo na sa mga ganitong sitwasyon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kung sino man ang maniwala sa tape, lalo na ang mga namumuno sa gobyerno, sana ay paniwalaan ang kabuuan ng tape. kung may kakasuhan dahil sa pag-iingat o pagwiretap ng kontrobersyal na tape, sana ay kasuhan din o imbestigahan ang mga inaakalang nagmamay-ari ng mga boses dun sa tape. lalo na ang dep&#8217;t of justice na kung saan ang lahat ng mamamayang pilipino ay makakakuha dapat ng hustisya (justice).<br />
 ako po ay naniniwala na ang dep&#8217;t of justce ay hindi lupon ng mga abogadong tagapagtanggol lamang ni gloria o ng sinumang magiging pangulo ng bansa.<br />
 sana ay matimbang ng husto kung sino ba ang higit na nangangailangan ng hustisya lalo na sa mga ganitong sitwasyon.</p>
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		<title>By: irene</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>irene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hay naku.kahit sino papalit kay gloria..kahit pusa..alis lang sya pwe!...kakahiya ka. yun ba last best hope..nakapag aral sa US..economist...daughter of an ex-president. with all these things coming out..i became even prouder that i voted for fpj.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hay naku.kahit sino papalit kay gloria..kahit pusa..alis lang sya pwe!&#8230;kakahiya ka. yun ba last best hope..nakapag aral sa US..economist&#8230;daughter of an ex-president. with all these things coming out..i became even prouder that i voted for fpj.</p>
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		<title>By: INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories &#187; &#8220;Defeated&#8221; Cotabato City mayoralty bet comes forward</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>INSIDE PCIJ: Stories behind our stories &#187; &#8220;Defeated&#8221; Cotabato City mayoralty bet comes forward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] e.  	Juliano, whose name was mentioned at least five times in the supposed taped conversations involving poll commissioner Virgilio Garcillano and Atty Lintang Bedol, says she has come for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] e.  	Juliano, whose name was mentioned at least five times in the supposed taped conversations involving poll commissioner Virgilio Garcillano and Atty Lintang Bedol, says she has come for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bagabag</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>bagabag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2005 07:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, lets us accept the fact that the people in the Comelec have perfected the art of dagdag-bawas and any politician in the country are now aware how dagdag-bawas works.  All you have to do is to have someone in the muncipal or provincial level to alter the result of the canvassing.  I believe that this is not the first time that dagdag bawas happened.  I remember a lawyer friend who told me that sometime in 1992, a group of lawyers were assigned in Mindanao to do some magic in the election between the late Monching Mitra and President Fidel Ramos.  At that time, he mentioned about the help of the military in getting the advance results of the elections in the precinct level and relay these results to the national level for possible trending.  

So the picture is now getting clearer on the role of the military during elections and how the people in the Comelec works wonder in directing the results of the elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, lets us accept the fact that the people in the Comelec have perfected the art of dagdag-bawas and any politician in the country are now aware how dagdag-bawas works.  All you have to do is to have someone in the muncipal or provincial level to alter the result of the canvassing.  I believe that this is not the first time that dagdag bawas happened.  I remember a lawyer friend who told me that sometime in 1992, a group of lawyers were assigned in Mindanao to do some magic in the election between the late Monching Mitra and President Fidel Ramos.  At that time, he mentioned about the help of the military in getting the advance results of the elections in the precinct level and relay these results to the national level for possible trending.  </p>
<p>So the picture is now getting clearer on the role of the military during elections and how the people in the Comelec works wonder in directing the results of the elections.</p>
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		<title>By: swerty</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>swerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>---Off topic---

Warning: Be careful especially if you are taking bus or train or around a big crowd.  I'm a little paranoid but I need to tell you that there might be some incidences of criminal acts or a major news like bombing a mall.  All I'm saying is that they might use some diversionary tactic to distract the attention of the people.  Again, be careful and be vigilant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;Off topic&#8212;</p>
<p>Warning: Be careful especially if you are taking bus or train or around a big crowd.  I&#8217;m a little paranoid but I need to tell you that there might be some incidences of criminal acts or a major news like bombing a mall.  All I&#8217;m saying is that they might use some diversionary tactic to distract the attention of the people.  Again, be careful and be vigilant.</p>
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		<title>By: cigen</title>
		<link>http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=128#comment-946</link>
		<dc:creator>cigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following piece appeared in the June 14 issue of Tribune and People's Journal.

&lt;blockquote&gt;No way out
By Conrado I. Generoso

TIME Asian edition’s June 13 issue has President Gloria Arroyo on the cover with the title “The Lord Put Me Here,” quoting GMA herself. Coming as it does at the height of the Senate probe of allegations her husband, son, and brother-in-law are on the jueteng-payola take—and with the ghost of Bong Pineda continuing to hound her since she became senator—the cover could have been more appropriately titled:  “The Jueteng Lord Put Me Here.” 

But unlike in the case of her predecessor, it is not jueteng that will likely seal GMA’s doom. Rather it is Garcigate, or the Garcillano tapes.

For unlike in the jueteng issue, in which the President had taken a categorical “no-member-of-my-family-will-be-spared” stand, GMA has kept mum about the Garcillano tapes and left it to her flip-flopping subalterns to make conflicting statements.

One is reminded of the late US President Richard Nixon in the early days of the Watergate scandal. Remember, what eventually led to Nixon’s downfall was not the Watergate break-in but the ensuing cover-up and Nixon’s taped conversations with his men.

Nixon and his men fought hard to have the tapes sealed—even invoking the national-security argument—but after hearing all arguments, the US Supreme Court on July 24, 1974, ordered Nixon to turnover the tapes to the US Senate that was then investigating Watergate—with instructions to delete portions that involved national security.

Since Nixon’s taping of the conversations did not have permission from the people he talked with, the tapes were initially deemed illegally obtained and constituted a violation of the constitutional right to privacy. But the Supreme Court, weighing such argument against greater consideration—truth, justice, and the American national interest—decided that they should be given to the Senate committee as evidence in the Watergate scandal.

The decision to make the tapes available to the US Senate paved the way for their use in the subsequent impeachment case against Nixon. Three days after the US Supreme Court decision, the US House of Representatives passed the first of three articles of impeachment (for obstruction of justice) against Nixon. On August 9, 1974, Nixon resigned.

Malacanang and Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales have been warning that the tape of the conversations was obtained by wiretapping—and therefore illegal—and that anyone possessing tapes or compact discs containing the conversations may be haled to court for violation of Republic Act 4200 or the Anti-Wiretapping Law. Even the National Telecommunications Commission, which is under the Office of the President, has warned broadcast stations against airing contents of the tapes or CDs or face closure.

What they do not realize is that by insisting on this stance, they are shooting themselves in the foot. And they are digging a bigger and deeper hole for GMA. 

First of all, they have already admitted that indeed the telephone calls and conversations took place and that either the President’s or Comelec commissioner Virgilio Garcillano’s phone was tapped. (Recall that Malacanang even warned that if the President could be wiretapped, what security do ordinary citizens have?) 

It then leaves only to prove that the tapes have not been altered or tampered with—and there goes the end of Gloria Arroyo.

That’s why it would do well for former NBI deputy director Samuel Ong to surrender now and ask for a one-day trial—not a day longer—since evidence is already on hand and very strong. 

In order to convict Ong of violating the Anti-Wiretapping Law, government prosecutors would have to present as evidence the tape of the wiretapped conversations between GMA and Garcillano—otherwise they have no case. 

The day after, the opposition can then—on the basis of the contents of the tapes—file an impeachment complaint against GMA for violation of the constitution, high crimes, and treason. There can be no higher crime, no greater treason in a democracy than to subvert the electoral will.

Since the tapes of the wiretapped conversations have been previously presented in court, GMA’s lawyers cannot then argue against their presentation in the impeachment trial. 
Even if GMA’s political allies—by sheer dictatorship of numbers—manage to thwart any impeachment initiative, Arroyo would have been so weakened by this scandal that she would be unfit to govern. One way or the other, she has to go. 

For now, she may think na nakaisa siya noong eleksiyon.

But as we are taught in the elementary grades about the parable of the monkey and the turtle, “Tuso man daw ang matsing napaglalalangan din.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following piece appeared in the June 14 issue of Tribune and People&#8217;s Journal.</p>
<blockquote><p>No way out<br />
By Conrado I. Generoso</p>
<p>TIME Asian edition’s June 13 issue has President Gloria Arroyo on the cover with the title “The Lord Put Me Here,” quoting GMA herself. Coming as it does at the height of the Senate probe of allegations her husband, son, and brother-in-law are on the jueteng-payola take—and with the ghost of Bong Pineda continuing to hound her since she became senator—the cover could have been more appropriately titled:  “The Jueteng Lord Put Me Here.” </p>
<p>But unlike in the case of her predecessor, it is not jueteng that will likely seal GMA’s doom. Rather it is Garcigate, or the Garcillano tapes.</p>
<p>For unlike in the jueteng issue, in which the President had taken a categorical “no-member-of-my-family-will-be-spared” stand, GMA has kept mum about the Garcillano tapes and left it to her flip-flopping subalterns to make conflicting statements.</p>
<p>One is reminded of the late US President Richard Nixon in the early days of the Watergate scandal. Remember, what eventually led to Nixon’s downfall was not the Watergate break-in but the ensuing cover-up and Nixon’s taped conversations with his men.</p>
<p>Nixon and his men fought hard to have the tapes sealed—even invoking the national-security argument—but after hearing all arguments, the US Supreme Court on July 24, 1974, ordered Nixon to turnover the tapes to the US Senate that was then investigating Watergate—with instructions to delete portions that involved national security.</p>
<p>Since Nixon’s taping of the conversations did not have permission from the people he talked with, the tapes were initially deemed illegally obtained and constituted a violation of the constitutional right to privacy. But the Supreme Court, weighing such argument against greater consideration—truth, justice, and the American national interest—decided that they should be given to the Senate committee as evidence in the Watergate scandal.</p>
<p>The decision to make the tapes available to the US Senate paved the way for their use in the subsequent impeachment case against Nixon. Three days after the US Supreme Court decision, the US House of Representatives passed the first of three articles of impeachment (for obstruction of justice) against Nixon. On August 9, 1974, Nixon resigned.</p>
<p>Malacanang and Justice Secretary Raul Gonzales have been warning that the tape of the conversations was obtained by wiretapping—and therefore illegal—and that anyone possessing tapes or compact discs containing the conversations may be haled to court for violation of Republic Act 4200 or the Anti-Wiretapping Law. Even the National Telecommunications Commission, which is under the Office of the President, has warned broadcast stations against airing contents of the tapes or CDs or face closure.</p>
<p>What they do not realize is that by insisting on this stance, they are shooting themselves in the foot. And they are digging a bigger and deeper hole for GMA. </p>
<p>First of all, they have already admitted that indeed the telephone calls and conversations took place and that either the President’s or Comelec commissioner Virgilio Garcillano’s phone was tapped. (Recall that Malacanang even warned that if the President could be wiretapped, what security do ordinary citizens have?) </p>
<p>It then leaves only to prove that the tapes have not been altered or tampered with—and there goes the end of Gloria Arroyo.</p>
<p>That’s why it would do well for former NBI deputy director Samuel Ong to surrender now and ask for a one-day trial—not a day longer—since evidence is already on hand and very strong. </p>
<p>In order to convict Ong of violating the Anti-Wiretapping Law, government prosecutors would have to present as evidence the tape of the wiretapped conversations between GMA and Garcillano—otherwise they have no case. </p>
<p>The day after, the opposition can then—on the basis of the contents of the tapes—file an impeachment complaint against GMA for violation of the constitution, high crimes, and treason. There can be no higher crime, no greater treason in a democracy than to subvert the electoral will.</p>
<p>Since the tapes of the wiretapped conversations have been previously presented in court, GMA’s lawyers cannot then argue against their presentation in the impeachment trial.<br />
Even if GMA’s political allies—by sheer dictatorship of numbers—manage to thwart any impeachment initiative, Arroyo would have been so weakened by this scandal that she would be unfit to govern. One way or the other, she has to go. </p>
<p>For now, she may think na nakaisa siya noong eleksiyon.</p>
<p>But as we are taught in the elementary grades about the parable of the monkey and the turtle, “Tuso man daw ang matsing napaglalalangan din.”</p></blockquote>
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