Extravaganza at Ayala

While the mood was upbeat, it did not quite have the spontaneity of Edsa 1 and Edsa 2.

of course not. because it was a scheduled rally and not meant to be a “people power” type gathering ala Edsa.

We’re not there… yet.

your correct john. it wasn’t meant to be like EDSA 1 and 2. It was a scheduled rally. Although I am at work at that time, i did went out to join the rally during my 1 hour break.

If I were in RP, I would’ve joined you guys. I am with you in spirit…GMA must resign!

Hello DocGo,

You dont have to be hear. You just have to help us to advance our cause to our fellow filipinos and friends from where you are, by being active in this blog and other chat rooms. God bless you.

Naisip niyo na ba kung ano ang mangyayari kung mag-resign si Gloria? Kutob naman natin lahat na nandaya siya pero hindi natin pinansin dahil ayaw natin kay FPJ. Bakit ngayon na lumabas ang baho, bigla tayong nagpapataasan ng ihi? Sige tingnan natin kung gaano katagal nakaupo si Noli bago magka-coup.

hindi yan rally para sa pagbabago… yan ay isang fiesta!!!

walang kabuluhan…

does not represent the sentiments of the whole nation…

sa manila lang ang gulo… sa probinsiya tuloy ang buhay…
wala ng makikibaka sa kanila…

sana kayo diyan sa manila… mag trabaho na kayo!… magsikap huwag maging tamad!… traffic lang idinidulot ninyo…

may pag-asa pa tayo… magsimula tayo sa sarili natin…
disiplina lang ang kailangan….

kaya… sundin ang saligang batas… kung may pagkakasala man dapat dalhin sa tamang lugar… huwag diyan sa daan para kayong mga Askal…!!!

pagod na ako!!! pero pilit kung tinatanggap ang lahat dahil ako ay isang pinoy… Astig ito!!!

Ito pa lang ang simula ng wakas.. Maging maingat lang po tayo gaya ng lagi ko ng ipinaaalala… Hindi ganoon kadali, ang pagpapaalis kay GMA, nasa likuran niya si FVR at ang kanyang batalyon upang supilin ang sinomang haharang sa kanilang daan… Kaya ang simbahan ay hindi pumanig sa sambayanan na paalisin si GMA sapagkat alam nila na kapag sila ang nanawagan sa sambayanan na mag-aklas laban kay GMA… sila sila ang magkakaubusan..kaya minabuti na lang nila na manahimik sa unang pagkakataon….(edsa 1, edsa 2 sila ang pasimuno) ngayon kay GMA … tameme sila… sus ginoo. Kaya umatras si Cory, sa isip niya, tama na ang isang Ninoy.. Tandaan natin.. ito ang simula ng walang hanggang wakas….

That’s why Askal is not in Ayala. He doesn’t believe in pagbabago. Referring to a pinoy fiesta = walang kabuluhan? Demeaning surveys showing GMA negative trust rating? And ofcourse the geographic comment… simple its not the sentiments of the nation.

Ang baho kaso ng Malacanan mas malakas ang amoy sa Manila. Well, maybe its because Malacanan is in Manila. Kahit namn sa US ang mga tao pag me issue kay Bush sa Washington sila nagrarally, hindi sa probinsya.

San ba pinaguusapan ang jueteng-gate, hello-garci? Dba sa Tongreso? Saan ba ang tongreso? Sa Batasan Hills. Nasa QC. Ang Kongreso na nagiimbestiga ng mga iskandalong kinasasangkutan ni GMA ay nasa Maynila. Ang pangulong iniimbestigahan ay nasa Malacanan. San ba ang Malacanan. Ok take a guess…

The fact is we are far from the the crime scene which is Mindanao. But Manila is very much near from the criminal.

Manila is like a small Philippines. Overcrowded with the different ethnic groups. May Bisaya, may muslim, may kapampangan… etc.

Or we can isolate the anti-Arroyo Cebu rally.

if i am in our country now, count on me guys…. Gloria has to go. ano pa ba ang gusto nyang marating. yang pagtitipon na yan simboyo nga damdamin ng taong-bayan. of course, sabihin ng mga nasa probinsya na sa Emperial Manila lang ang langitngit at panawagan pero tinanong ba nila ang mga bahay-bahay.. di siguro.

see, sinabi halos ng lahat ng mga elected na kay gloria sila, of course, they have too dahil pareho lang silang gahaman ug hakog sa pwesto.

i think the lamed duck in malacañang has to go…..

That’s freedom of expression and reconciliation working. Kita mo yung mga oppressed nung Martial Law together with the likes of you know who. Very forgiving sila to past crimes but not to impropriety of a President. Ayaw ng impeachment. Resign daw. Ang gulo naman natin.

Si Drilon governance issue naman ang nilalabas. Di ba part siya ng administration, and does this mean that by turning his back on the President, he is confirming that the administration, which he was part of during the last elections, cheated.

Si Cam, jueteng ang issue, yun pala ang daming estafa cases. Defender niya si Chavez, wala naman respeto sa House ng Senate.

Matagal na ako nag-aantay ng Mother of all tapes, nasaan na. Witnesses ni Cruz, may threats naman daw. Ang gulo…. lumalabas witch hunting lang ata ‘to.

Sana naglabas ng survey yung Pulse Asia kung ilan ang naniwala doon sa “Earthquake Hoax at 5:00″. Siguro lalabas na maraming naniwala at umuwi.

Askal, ano bang konstitusyon yung sinasabi mo, nakakain ba yon… Matagal ng patay ang konstitusyon ng Pilipinas, sino ang pumatay… e sino pa e di yung mga nag-edsa 1 and edsa 2 … maliwanag ba? o baka nalalabuan ka pa? Sabi natin sumunod sa konstitusyon, e sinuway nyo a, baka isa ka pa sa sumama sa edsa 1 at edsa 2,,, ngayon sasabihin mo sumunod sa konstitusyon…. Pag nasunod yung gusto mo, okey sa yo,, pag hindi ayon sa gusto mo labag sa konstitusyon.. sus ginoo… ako e graduate lang sa puno ng bayabas pero nag-eesep ako…. Sulong mga kababayan ,,, putulin natin ang sungay ng pitong demonyo…. Ito ang simula ng walang hanggang wakas…..

“Police block anti-Arroyo rallyists from provinces”

baka daw ma infiltrate ng “bad elements”. bad elements like who? those who want arroyo to resign? do more of that and you’ll anger the people all the more.

patayin ang mga spammer nang blogs from Malacanang!!!

Kung totot man na nandaya si GMA eh baka naman pumantay lang sya dahil artista ang kalaban nya hehehe mali pero kung iisipin parang ok lang minsan mas marami ang hindi naiisip kung sino ang tamang iboboto natin. LAhat damay damay na. But as always, rule of law should prevail. let us not jump to conclusion that “yun dagdag” na talaga. Let us give her a day in court, a chance to explain herself in the impeachment court. Kaya lang, wala rin akong tiwala sa mga senador natin, kahit walang kasalanan o me kasalanan si GMA, they will surely vote not because of their “konsensya” (kung meron pa) but to protect there interest. hehehe let us ask US to make the philippines part of their country nalang… kaya lang baka di din sila pumayag noh mahulo kasi tayo. Tayo mismo ang sumisira sa kinabukasan natin…

The rally got coverage on CNN. There was a shot from a high
vantage point. Very impressive looking.

people are asking PGMA to resign on grounds of cheating the 2004 elections… the administration is consolidating its efforts in changing our system of government… like duh, they’re addressing the wrong issue!

As the opposition blitz for the end game finally sputtered to a crawl, let us expect the onset of a war of attrition. It will be a long and ardous struggle with countless losses but damn if it won’t make life in Imperial Manila more colorful and interesting.

sige na nga impress na ako sa rally ninyo. gusto ko na tuloy sumali kasama ng mga kapitbahay ko dito sa calumpit. pero bago ko masuyo si ka berting na aking barbero, dapat lang na masagot itong mga katanungan niya:
kung itong pinaglalaban natin ay tungkol sa isyung MORALIDAD sa gobyerno, hindi kaya nararapat na tanungin din natin si imee at ang mga dating alipores ni makoy na (1) ibalik ang lahat ng perang ninakaw nila sa bayan na siyang nagpapahirap sa ating bansa ngayon (2) humingi ng tawad sa lahat ng victims of human rights violations (3) sabihin na kung sino ang nagpatumba kay Ninoy Aquino. Gayon din kay Jinggoy at sa mga alipores ni Erap, na sabihin na nagsisisi na sila sa kanilang pagnanakaw ng pera ng gobyerno at sa pagkasangkot sa jueteng. Kung hindi man, kahit na humingi man lang siya ng tawad kay Sen. Loi sa kanyang ‘lapse of judgment’ sa kanyang pagpapagawa ng ‘Boracay sa Tagaytay’ kay Laarni.
Hindi day niya kaya ang makipagkapitbisig sa mga taong namumuno sa mga rally ngayon hanggat hindi pa nabigyan ng hustisya ang kanyang ipinaglaban noon. Hanggat hindi daw nabigyan ng kasagutan ang kanyang mga katanungan, itong people power rally daw na ito ay HUWAD at PEKE. AT WALANG BENDISYON NG POONG MAYKAPAL.

hay buhay..wala ng katapusan ang problema ng bayan natin..im with you guys out there n nagrally,nagpakahirap at nagaksaya ng panahon nila..GMA should resign…

O ano kayo ngayon?

Naka-ilang comment na dito pero Wala ako makitang any numbers being quoted here a? What’s the matter? Skirting the reality of the dismal numbers that came to this fiesta rally?

If the numbers were truly impressive, one would expect everyone quoting impressive NUMBERS left and right. But what’s the best anyone can come up with? “Ito pa lang ang simula ng wakas”. lol.

Pati ba naman sa mga people power revolutions naging mediocre na rin tayo?

Magtabaho na lang kayo. Panay hakot at stariray lang ang makakasama niyo diyan sa kalye.

http://www.getrealphilippines.com

You guys want some facts? I collected the following in 15 minutes. I wonder why a whole team of “investigative journalists” couldn’t even come up with a summary like this in the last 12 hours:

“Organizers said the crowd would swell over the day to 40,000 or 50,000 — a big step up from recent rallies of 8,000 but far from the hundreds of thousands who took to the streets of Manila to overthrow presidents in 1986 and 2001…. Beefing up a rally is not difficult in the Philippines, with people often offered a fast-food meal and a small payout to march and chant. But crowds have been known to lose their unity when the food or money runs short.”
(http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2005/07/13/chants_snac ks_at_anti_arroyo_rally_in_manila/)

“On both occasions, the Catholic Church and the powerful military withdrew their support from the presidents—but that hasn’t happened this time… Left-wing groups and supporters of Estrada—who has volunteered to serve as a transitional leader if Mrs. Arroyo is ousted—transported protesters by bus and jeeps from the provinces, police said…The crowd was a mix of leftist factory workers, students and star-struck supporters of Fernando Poe as well as of Estrada.”
(http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topofthehour.aspx?StoryId=10396)

“There were no signs yet that Arroyo’s traditional foes - leftist, student and farmers’ groups combined with supporters of deposed president Joseph Estrada - were being joined by the middle class, whose presence was crucial in past uprisings… The threat to reforms prompted Moody’s Investors Service on Wednesday to join the two other major ratings agencies in cutting a stable outlook for the Philippines to negative.”
(http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F50756CE-56F3-4759-B6A4-AC8015 95BB12.htm)

And check this out (the HAKOT BUDGET — so much for sponteinuty):
“Anti-Arroyo forces said they have 25 million pesos (HK$3.51 million) for protests due to run until Sunday.”
(http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/World/GG14Wd02.html)

ha ha ha:
“But the massive crowd’s mood was more festive than angry. It looked like a huge street party with an interesting mix of characters… Street vendors were out in full force, peddling corn on the cob, boiled bananas, fish balls, deep-fried chicken gizzards on a stick and scoops of ice cream on hamburger buns…. Music and entertainment were another crucial component, keeping the crowds from drifting away. Pop stars crooned on a huge stage and the “Sex Bomb” dancers–a group of young women in tight white tops and blue capri pants–did the classic bump and grind.”
(http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/net/2005/07/13/politics.foodfest.peo ple.watching.in.anti.arroyo.rally.(7.40.p.m.).html)

Even more pathetic (akala ko ba there are hundreds of thousands of Pinoys in San Francisco? ):
“Filipino-Americans in San Francisco, California, on Tuesday (Wednesday in Manila) staged a protest rally against President Arroyo… Thirty activists belonging to the US chapter of the left-wing Bayan Muna protested outside the Philippine consulate at about the same time that a similar demonstration was being held in Makati Wednesday afternoon.”

Pati ba naman sa ‘tate, hakot pa rin!
(http://news.balita.ph/html/public_html/article.php?story=200507130935 28832)

And some indication of what the aftermath of fieStas like these could be:

“Moody’s Investors Service decided Wednesday to join the two other major credit ratings agencies in cutting a “stable outlook” for the Philippines to “negative.” And the Asian Development Bank said its lending to the country over the next three years could range from nothing to US$1.5 billion (HK$11.7 billion) - depending on the pace of reforms.”
(http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/World/GG14Wd02.html)

“Meanwhile, the Asian Development Bank said on Wednesday it may cut off lending to the Philippines unless it speeds up reforms designed to shore up its fiscal position.”
(http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F50756CE-56F3-4759-B6A4-AC8015 95BB12.htm)

http://www.getrealphilippines.com

Kayong mga ayaw ng pagbabago.Manahimik na lang kayo..palibhasa siguro hindi kayo nag nahihirapan sa takbo ng buhay ngayon. ang galing niyong magsalita. Para kayong mga pulitiko na sala sa init sala sa lamig. Bakit masasabi niyo ba na hindi kayo sumama sa mga rallies noon? ngayon ayaw niyong sumali kasi feeling niyo ang papalit , yung hindi niyo ka-uri.. Kayong mga MATATAAS, kayong MGA MAYAYAMAN, KAYONG MGA MAY PINAG_ARALAN. ANG KAPAL NG MGA MUKHA NINYO. KAAYONG MGA WALANG GINAGAWA PARA SA BAYANG ITO, KAYONG HANGGANG SALITA LAMANG, HANGGANG “TIIS LAMANG” NAG LALONG NAGPAPAHIRAP SA BANSANG ITO. GUMISING KAYO !

I dont blame if people would take their stand on the streets kasi naman kahit daanin natin sa constitutional process ang lahat alam ng marami na madadaya pa rin ang resulta ng paglilitis…bakit kamo? aba’y bakit nagbibilangan na kung sinu sino pa ang mga kakampi ni GMA sa kongreso at senado….bakit me lulutuin na naman ba kayo para maniwala pa ang mga tao sa inyo? Nagkakagulo na nga kung anu ano pa ang pinapasok na bagong issue like yung charter change? Hey FVR and JDV, kala nyo pa matatapalan ang issue ni GMA sa mga tao kya kung anu ano na naman ang kabalbalan ng inuumpisahan nyo? Manahimik na lang kayo at di kayo nakakatulong sa bayan. Lalu ka na JDV, di ka pa matakot sa karma ha.

I think ang na reveal ng tapes ay kung gaano kadumi ang pulitika. I think ginagawa na ito nun pa man even before GMA’s time. Buti na lang at na reveal but everyone’s guilty of cheating. Magugulo tayong lahat. Kung sino yung wala sa power gusto sila ang nasa power so rally sa daan. Pag nanalo ang opposition me namang contra so rally uli. The Philippines is a sinking ship. Konting kalabog na lang lahat tayo babagsak. Sige rally ng rally, in a couple of years me pilipinas pa kaya? Sige magsaya kayo ngayon isipin niyo ang bukas kung saan tayo lahat pupulutin.

worrier, naiintindihan ko ang pag-iinit mo. ngunit huwag kang masyadong magalit sa mga taong iba ang pinanindigan sa iyo. katulad mo, nais ko rin ang pagbabago, kung guilty si gloria, nais ko pagbabayaran niya ang kanyang kasalanan. ngunit magkaiba lang ang paraan na itinataguyod natin. sa maniwala ka’t hindi taglay pa rin namin ang ideyalismo. kayod kalabaw ang ginagawa ko para lang makapagbigay ng trabaho sa kapuwa ko pilipino. ngunit sa paraang iniisip niyo pawang ang mga mahihirap ang lalong nagsasakripisyo. lalo na kung sumasanib kayo sa mga grupong iba ang motibo. hindi na panahon ngayon ng gulo, bigyan natin ang ating konstitusyon ng pagkakataon. ituloy natin ang pagtratrabaho sapagkat mahaba pa ang lalakarin natin. alam kong ang ating batas ay hindi perpekto. ngunit hindi nangangahulugan iyon na hindi natin ito sundin. at huwag kang mabahala, kung nasa panig ka ng katotohanan hindi ka pababayaan ng Poong Maykapal. mahirap ka man o mayaman, edukado o walang pinag-aralan, lahat tayo kapitbisig sa ikauunlad ng ating bayan!

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hakot? bakit yung mga rally ba na nilunsad noon nina GMA, hindi ba hakot din yun?
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E yun naman pala e. Kung ang tingin niyo dito sa mga rally na ito e panay hakot lang pala, e bakit ang hilig niyo pa rin sumoporta sa mga rally na ito.

It’s all phoney. Phoney hobbies for a phoney nation.

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benign0, enuff with the sarcasm, get off ur high horse and just say that ur pro gma and be done with it, ill respect u more for that. ksi i dont know where ur going with ur comments
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Is that all you can say now? I raised the reality of these “rallies” for all to see and the best thing you can come up with is to ask YET AGAIN if I am for or against GMA? Are those the only kinds of questions Pinoys can ask? Kanino ka ba? Kanino ka sasama? Pro ka ba or against?

This behaviour is one of the root issues of our society — to most typical Pinoys, it’s about loyalty to a PERSONALITY rather than to a PRINCIPLE.

I am here not because of any loyalty to any particular moron. Pare-pareho lang sa akin ang mga asungot na yan. What I’ve been doing is articulating PRINCIPLES. And yet typical Pinoys always can’t seem to elevate the discussion above personal loyalties.

Truly pathetic.

It’s no longer a surprise why our country is the basket case among basket cases.

http://www.getrealphilippines.com

nakasama ako sa rally kahapon at kapansinpasin na nangingibabaw sa damdamin ng mga taong naroon and sobrang paghihirap ng sambayanang pilipino. kabataan man na tulad ko, manggagawa, o ordinaryong mamamayan, pareparehong isinisigaw na ayaw na nila sa sinungaling at magnanakaw na administrasyong arroyo.

tama na, ayaw na, sobra ng pahirap, bumaba ka na gloria!

“To ask that an intelligent being remain aloof from the pertinent issues
of his society is to defeat the purpose of scholarships…” UP Sinag, 1981

what exactly benign0? if ur neither pro or against what are u for? being in ‘neutral third person point of view’, what do u hope to accomplish here? ur talk of principle is nice.. but weighing the reality is different..what exact principles are you fighting for? is it the four way test? rule of law?

sorry bro, wla ksi akong makitang prinsipyo sa comments mo.. like calling ppl in the rally ‘jologs’ or ‘hakot’ discriminatley categorizing ppl. if ur about principle wag mo naman ibadmouth ang mga tau na nagrarally, true may halo na iba an element dun pero un mga tau pumupunta dahil may hinanaing. were not all well off ppl u know. everyone isnt the same as u so sorry for being a ‘typical pinoy’. what loyalities are u talking about theres a rally because of the issue of ‘cheating’ pathetic talaga tyo at naging presidente natin c glo na nandaya. iba iba ang pananaw ng mga tau sa isyu respeto naman, dont dismiss us as pathetic beings.

So now it seems that the issue is to show some kind of “understanding” for the people who took to the streets. Now we try to paint them as “victims” whereas a couple of days ago they were supposed to be our warriors of truth and justics.

Talaga naman oo. Kaya tayo di nagkakaisa e.

See now how what a couple of days ago was a machistic battle cry to take to the streets is now a whimper of appeal to “understand” or even “respect” these pathetic people who chose to dance to the tune of the SexBomb dancers in Ayala.

True it is largely ignorance and lack of education plus an appreciation of a free meal that brought these people together. But who’s fault is that? Typical Filipinos (yes TYPICAL) will cite the usual suspects: Corrupt Government and our colonial past.

So what else is new.

Why should I be apologetic for my highhandedness? I don’t see any of these jologs apologising for their ignorance.

Last I heard, ignorance does not exempt one from compliance to the Law.

http://www.getrealphilippines.com

i agree with you tabz. grabe..jologs? phoney nation? san ka ba ngayon, benigno? aba kung nandito ka pa sa PINAS, umalis ka..phoney nation pala, jologs pala e… sensya na , bro ha… di ka namin ma-reach e

ASKAL,

–kaya… sundin ang saligang batas… kung may pagkakasala man dapat dalhin sa tamang lugar… huwag diyan sa daan para kayong mga Askal…!!!

pagod na ako!!! pero pilit kung tinatanggap ang lahat dahil ako ay isang pinoy… Astig ito!!! —

Bro, That was only a scheduled rally.. If you do not want to come, fine.. Ang mga taong nandun sa rally ay may paninindigan at may hangaring mapabuti ang bansa natin khit sa maliit na paraang kaya nila. Bakit hndi kaya si Gloria ang pagbuntunan mo ng galit dahil sya naman ang may kagagwan nito. Gs2 mo pa bang maging presidente ang nangdaya sa eleksyon? Ewan ko lang.. As far as Im concern, people who do not have a stand on this big issue do not deserve a greater leader of this nation.

benigno, hirap kasi sa iba kababayan natin masyado mataas ang tingin sa sarili.. you had your opinion and ‘Jologs’ ay isang salitang kalye. : )

Tsk tsk. Looks like people here have now stooped to a discussion on personalities.

So what kung “hindi ako ma-reach” according to one of these TYPICAL Pinoy hirits?

Hindi talaga. Kahit gumulong gulong kayo sa kalye.

Kaya nga kayo PERENIALLY nasa kalye at mga taong katulad ko ay naka taas ang paa sa loob ng airconditioned na opisina e.

That’s the reality, dudes. DEAL WITH IT.

Seems like the reason we are now discussing these petty details is because the tide has now turned at the ISSUES level of the discussion, now that we have seen who are really behind these calls to take to the streets. Even sadder is the inconsistency of these left-wing “cause oriented groups”. Anti Erap sila dati, ngayon kasama nila ang mga pro-Erap sa kalsada. Talaga naman oo.

If you find some problem with being classified as jologs and hakots then DEMONSTRATE that you are above discussing LIKE jologs and hakots. Face the reality of the situation. Discuss the ISSUES.

And the issue is squarely flat on the table here:

Yesterday’s rally was a disgrace to the cause of resignism. Deal with that.

http://www.getrealphilippines.com

tsk tsk tsk… I wonder if you are for the Philippines. I wonder what will happen to the Philippines if everybody’s mind is just like yours benign0???

Hehehe in benigno’s world well all be classified as either ignorant, hakots, leftist or destabilizers eyes wide open. =) Ganun din naman classification nila ke rizal at bonifacio eh so fear not your in good company.Much better than being a liar a cheat and a robber di po ba??

i still dont find any weight in ur words benign0, ur reality is different from a lot of ppl who face thse issues head on. seems ksi na some of us just sits around and look at facts thats written on or whats shown in the news and then just ses what they feel about it.

we need more ppl with geniune concern for the moral well being of this country, i cant stand to have a president who cheated the elections, what would that say about us as a nation to the world.. this is a different scandal than that of the US’ Bill Clinton in terms of cheating.

To all,

Honestly, I fully respect everyone’s position at hand.
Ke maki-gloria or pro-resign! And, am happy to be educated day by day.
Alam naman natin di natatapos sa pagpapatalsik kay gloria ang solusyon ng mga problema.
Not until, all of us become “credible” to throw the first stone to a sinner!
This is probably a long shot, but together let’s give our best shot! Now!

Like it or not, history keeps on repeating itself. There are no coincidences!

Maybe friend is right when he said ” There is an UNSEEN HAND that has set up all this events,
such that everything seems to fit well and is systematic. Go beyond the smokescreen”.

But, who would tell who could that be?

Whether all of us would be able to see it clearly or not, the agenda of the unseen hand (good or bad) will be exposed in proper time not by the eyes but by the hearts. Our open hearts courageously enough to accept the wind of change, without reservation, decide the final blow of change.

In every passage of times, we are all players (groups or individual)
with different lines, colors and shapes trying to outplay each
other for a better position viewing the future. And once again, we are now in the center stage of an unfolding history of our time. Principled or not, known or unknown, there is a need to be sensitive what makes all people (not only the masses) move into one direction. Its not the one who can shout louder nor the one who can manipulate and control the rules. There is also a need to revisit the views of those who died in their times trying to make a radical or conservative image of change. The applicability and rightfulness of their “lines” then, no matter how simple or complicated, maybe, the best for now.

What should be exposed and prevented are those who liked to cling and maintain the status quo. For nothing substantial will happen if we will not evolve (physically, emotionally and spiritually) over time.

Old and young in us should be credible to effect a change for others
(no matter how basic or drastic) to have a clear view of the best to come. The path of cleansing process is not easy…but it is clearly emerging. We need to actively process and explore every ideas of times, objectively and positively. Hope we should never again allow ourselves to engage lengthily in negative discussions for it will just distract us from discerning better perspective. Sometimes, it force us to stop and missed a point.

As always, we need to accept that the chance of disagreement is very high in the process. We only need to respect each other. The big
challenge is when each and everyone of us keep on accusing each other of conspiring with evil. More than ever, we need to be sensitive to the flow of time to be able to engage correctly. We need not worry about the crooks and the wicked. Whether they like it or not, they will be exposed to death by each other. As dirty money will look for hidden wealth, their guns will look for guns. Sad to say too, good men and women will also die in the cleansing process, but their deaths will only amplify their voices. For one, remember our friend, Imo! He created something in me to have a simple lifestyle!

In 1986, most of us were all student, some were activists. In 2001, most of us have changed, some remained consistent (I salute them), and depending on one’s perspective, whether all are in agreement or not, we evolved to be better individual. Each having a different role to share in this new wave of change. For sure, some of you are better thinker than myself because of your experiences,
but more so, we need each other and other people of different lines, shapes and colors to give us a better
perspective of what future lies ahead of us.

Please correct me, but I simply believe that all the spectrum of our
political lines, shapes and colors (L, C, R, L-C, R-C) whatever we may call it, has something to share for our better future. For no one has the monopoly of righteousness, but yes, credibility makes it stronger. The call for constitutional turnover, truth commission, cha-cha, constitutional assembly, parliamentary, TRG, caretaker govt., etc. are all in the offering. I believe any of these options will only be meaningful, if and only if Gloria surrender her power. This is step one.The next step will only be envisioned to have a clear line, color and shape after the conclusion of the first step.
Logically speaking Gloria will not resign for fear she will end up sleeping with Erap in jail. Even the most trusted politicians, Jovy and Joker think its a political suicide to do so. But, again, who will conduct for the unseen hand to move? Is it FVR? JDV? CIA?, Military? Let us all remember they were all things of the past, our not-so-beautiful past. Nonetheless, together with them, the trapo and the masa, all of us once again, will be used as instrument, for another chance of change!
Whatever position of political lines, color and shapes, pro, anti and prayer rallies, all are collective segment and necessary ingredients of a meaningful change that is happening before us. Like it or not, political rallies will be called prayer rallies, only in the Philippines!

The unseen hand will force Gloria to resign eventually! And who could that be? Only GMA knows it. For she also as an instrument, her conscience will not sleep continuously not to understand reality.

Even if Gloria clings to power longer, the better for majority to be educated as more truths will uncover more lies in the government. As we have seen and other will start to see, Gloria is not only the problem.
More and more people in power and the corrupt system they are protecting will be exposed. Believe it or not, we will also start meaningful changes in ourselves. Again this maybe a long shot, but together let us all aim a bulleye in our heart.

More than ever, now is the proper time to correct the error of the past.
If this part of history will make us all witness to have 2 presidents in jail, so be it! And, let us work closely together to put into jail all corrupt government officials and businessmen! Others beware, for it will surely give the best education to our future leaders and children!

Again it is true that history keeps on repeating itself for us to correct what we did wrong and to change what is still needed to change.

Our challenge, I would say is how to continuously evolve as a better warrior of our times. Truly, the “unseen hand” is working for a better Philippines!

But again, who would tell us who could that exactly be? My answer will surely creates more questions! Like, Is impeachment being proposed by some well meaning individual could be an “unseen hand” doing?

Prayer is part of my answers!

GOD BLESS US ALL,

ELM

Kaya nga kayo PERENIALLY nasa kalye at mga taong katulad ko ay naka taas ang paa sa loob ng airconditioned na opisina e…………tsk………tsk…. Wala ka pala kwentang kausap BENIGNO!!!!, nakataas pala ang paa mo at aircon ka pa… siguro kung walang aircon dyan mainit no….. NAKAHIGA KA BA?

tigas face GMA, wala na tyong pag-asa khit cno umupo pare parehas lang silang lahat mababaho, malalangsa, mandaraya, magnanakaw at higit sa lahat mga walang dios, kc PERA ang dios nila.

psencia na folks, kung ako’y naging pessimistic. But that is the real truth, my pag-asa paba tyo?

Benigno is asking for MATH. here. do your math:

ASKDOC said: Did some quick calculation using your formula and a streetmap.

The stretch of Ayala from makati med(salcedo street) to makati ave(manila pen) is around 1000 meters more or less. The width of ayala ave (inc. sidewalks) is around 40 meters. (my house is 40 x 80 m so I know how wide 40 meters is) That means the area is 40,000 sq. m.

The stretch of Paseo from Ayala to Makati Ave is about 500 meters x around 30 m width would give 15,000 sq m. or 55,000 sq meters total. Your formula means the crowd should be between 55,000 to 110,000.

AT around 6pm. RG Cruz of ANC reported that the crowd had swelled and had reached one block beyond the Manila Peninsula while on Paseo it had reached Buendia. That added 12,000 sq m in Paseo and about 6000 sq m from Ayala for a grand total of 73,000 sq m. So if my map is correct, the estimates at peak should be between 73,000 people to 146,000 people.

The police has the right formula, its the numbers they plug in that is “defective”.
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AS USUAL, the police applied DAG-DAG BAWAS.

watda!

check out some photos of the AYALA rally at BBC.

speak up ninoy este “benigno”…..

benigno…

nakataas ang paa sa mesa, naka erkon po…tsk, tsk, stsk,….siguro nangunguyakoy kapa?…..napakasarap ng buhay….
Pinag aaksayahan ko ng panahon ang iyong mga akda, pinipilit kung intindihin sa kadahilanang mahina ako sa ingles…..
Iyon pala’y aksaya lang ng panahon…..
Hindi mo maiintindihan ang mga tulad naming mahihirap….sa kadahilanang di mo man lang nasubukan ang mabuhay ng tulad namin…di mo nasubukan kumalam ang tiyan….ang di makapag-aral…..ang mabuhay sa lugar na mas nababagay lang sa mga hayop…
Ang ibig mo’y tumahimik lang kami, upang ‘wag mabulabog ang iyong mga “sariling interes”……tsk,tsk,tsk…..
Mas mahihirapan kang paniwalain ang mga naririto sa iyong paninindigan (kung meron man)….. sa kadahilanang ang kanilang kinamumuhian ay ang larawan na iyong ipinakikita…..katulad ka rin nila….

breaking news: lumabas na naman si CHAVIT. at ang sabi nya galing daw sa mother of all tapes… erap caught on tape discussing with a certain NAZARENO to topple ‘PANDAK’ and to install a revolutionary government.

SABI pa ni CHAVIT, balak daw ng opposition na patayin si GMA.

GANOON??? Paano nangyaring galing sa mother of all tapes to eh bakit hindi kasama si GARCIllano sa usapan. as per transcript di ba laging BIDA si GARCIllano???

ba’t wala to sa transcript ng PCIJ???

nagpapapel lang ba si CHAVIT dahil napag-alamang hindi totoong he was stopped in a certain street to be ambushed by erap’s men when erap was president and turned out that he was stopped by the patrol because he beat the red light???

gannoon??

Talagang tayong mga Pilipino ay mahirap ng magkaintindihan pagdating diyan sa pagsasagawa ng rally, sa kadahilanang tayo ay kanya kanyang paninindigan pagdating sa lahat ng bagay.. Nung edsa 1, anong sabi natin, laban sa saligang batas, pero ng magtagumpay sila, labag pa ba sa saligang batas?… naulit kay erap,,, labag din sa saligang batas, pero nagtagumpay sila… Eto na ngayon, labag din sa saligang batas, hindi na raw kailangan ang isa pang edsa, daanin na lang daw sa dasal,, Noong una, dahil walang interes na masasaling , nagsama-sama sina Sin, Cory, FVR, … ngayon may masasaling, kaya umatras si Cory, natira na lang si FVR at CBCP.Noong una malaking factor ang panawagan ni Sin, natural mga panatikong Katoliko ay naglabasan sa kalye para saklolohan ang kanilang kaparian.. Ngayon ang mga taong nasa labas bagamat katoliko ay hindi naman panatiko, kaya konti lang ang bilang nila. Bagama’t labag sa salligang batas ang paraang ito ng pagpapaalis kay GMA, wala namang silang ibang pupuntahan, ika nga e, inumpisahan nyo na daanin sa kalye ang pagpapalayas sa namumuno sa gobyerno, e di tapusin natin sa kalye… at natural karamihan sa mga sumama sa rally ay mga isinakay ng mga taong pasimuno ng rally.. una, wala na nga akong pang-almusal mamasahe pa ako papunta sa rally, no ka sinusuwerte, ako nga gusto kong sumama sa rally, paano ko magagawa 3 araw na akong di kumakain, naiintindihan mo ba benigno? Paulit ulit ng mangyayari ang mga bagay na ito, wala ng katapusan yan… Pag ayaw mo sa nakaupo, maghakot ka ng tao, mag-rally ka… Yan ang itinuro ni Cardinal Sin ang inyong bayani, sa mga walang makaing Pilipino na nagugutom dahil sa mga tiwaling namumuno sa ting gobyerno… Sige , rally tayo,,, tinamaan ng asuwang na buhay ito… sus ginoo… Inumin natin ang dugo ng mga halimaw……

ITO NA ANG ISA SA PINAKAHIHINTAY NA PAGKAKAMALI!!!!!

Dahil sigurado papayag si erap na ipa authenticate ang cd na iyan…..
Papayag siyang mag-pa voice print……
Papaimbestigahan iyan sa lahat ng lugar……sa lahat ng bansa na may kakayanan sa ganiyang makabagong proseso…..

NGAYON……papaano iyong nasa palasyo…….hahamunin iyan……
PUMAYAG RIN KAYA SIYA????…….

“MATALINO” talaga itong si chavit……..
Sigurado “TUWANG” “TUWA” sa iyo ang nasa palasyo….

iyong dagdag……..iyong dagdag

hahahhaha. buking sigurado si CHAVIT niyan… nasa kulungan na nga yong tao… gagawan pa ng CD. hahahhaha.

i hope PCIJ can get this tape as well and post the transcript. claymore para masaya di ba.

Baka naman po mayroon jang masipag-sipag na maaring maglista ng 79 congressman na maaring sumuporta sa impeachment..Baka pwedeng PCIJ na mismo ang mag speculate kung sino sino sa mga kongresista ang mabibilang sa magic 79 na ito…(28 opposition congressmen..Party list (?), mga taga LP, Golez (1),…..

Hirap sa inyong mahihirap, kayo lagi ang kelangang “intindihan” e. Intindihin hiyo kaya ang mayayaman para naman matuto kayong mag sariling-sikap at umasa sa sarili (kesa naman sa lagi laging nakatingala sa diyos, mga pulitiko, at kay Jolina).

Panay lang kayo diyan naghahanap ng kadamay sa karukhaan niyo e.

Crab mentality ang tawag diyan.

Palibhasa sablay ang “rebolusyon” ninyo dahil sa sarili niyong mga grupong “maka-masa” kuno.

Sarap talaga ng naka erkon.

http://www.getrealphilippines.com

benign0 said, Hirap sa inyong mahihirap, kayo lagi ang kelangang “intindihan” e. Intindihin hiyo kaya ang mayayaman para naman matuto kayong mag sariling-sikap at umasa sa sarili (kesa naman sa lagi laging nakatingala sa diyos, mga pulitiko, at kay Jolina).

Sarap talaga ng naka erkon.
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hahahahahha. nakakatawa ka benign0. kaya nga maraming Pilipino ang naghihirap dahil sa mga taong nanghahamak sa mga dukhang mas pinapadukha pa nga mga mayayaman kuno!

hahahhah. nakakatawa ka benign0.

sabi ko na nga ba… you are just here to try clashing the dukha, the middle-class, and your group na naka erkon!

hahahah. nakakatawa ka.

o mga fello bloggers… nagladlad na ng kulay si benign0.

sablay kana, pasaway kapa!!! “ninoy” este benigno…

kadamay = crab mentality?

afaik, that means that u step on others to get urlsef ahead or pull others down for your own gain.

he has again avoided to answer the question of what his purpose is here.

eyesWIDEopen, ur right, he’s trying to make waves here pra cguro may madulas at magaway away tyo. nyways evident na yun, so nde na me cocomment abt it.. ive sed my piece.

hinde na muna ako mag aaircon..

Nong nag-aaral pa ako sa Davao City may isang lugar doon kung tawagin ay Baryo Kawayan. Dito pinagdedebatehan ang tungkol sa mga relihiyon, mapa Katoliko, Iglesia, Jehovah o Muslim man. Palagay ko doon nababagay si benignO na magpahayag ng kanyang mga opinyon, kasi mga tao doon puro pilosopo .

http://www.getrealBenign0.com

noelet said,
July 14, 2005 @ 9:20 pm

http://www.getrealBenign0.com

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HAHAHAH.

“Anti-Arroyo forces said they have 25 million pesos (HK$3.51 million) for protests due to run until Sunday.”
(http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/World/GG14Wd02.html)

“A police intelligence officer said on Tuesday that anti-Arroyo forces had a war-chest of P25 million and hopes of building up the protests to 1 million people by Sunday.”
(http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=10326)

The difference? On abs-cbnnews it says that the pro-Arroyo police intelligence said that anti-Arroyo forces have 25M. While the other article puts word in the mouth of the anti-Arroyo forces.

si chavit nahuli kasing nag beat lang pala ng red light nun nung sinabi niyang totodasin na siya ni erap. napahiya ata. he doesnt want any alternative to gma kasi, dali siya kung ganon.

pikon na ata si benign0. lumabas na ang baho. matapobre pala. katulad ni gma. doesnt he post using other names as well?

Benign0 said, ‘I raised the reality of these “rallies” for all to see…’

Contrary to what other realities or probably some parallel-dimension explanation, reality is talking about the core or the substance not a side trip to some lullaby fiesta.

The reality was there was a stage and a mic and in between those picnics and sex-bomb dancers, there was the core principle. Rather than faking side trip stories as the reality… better try exploring the real reality first.

Benign0 said, “… now a whimper of appeal to “understand” or even “respect” these pathetic people who chose to dance to the tune of the SexBomb dancers…”

There is a saying that a pearl cast in mud will not devalue itself. Nope, im not talking about the sex-bomb dancers. Nor to the jologs picnics waving their happy fiesta flags. And we dont have to understand to understand the ignorance that was there. Nor the hypocrisy of a free meal.

But we can talk in parallel to the hypocrisy of a moral principle - the pearl cast in mud. Its there in the rally.

Want some speeches? In the academe many were lost listening. In the the rally, its the same. People are standing rather uncomfortably for hours. They do know the topic and the principles behind it. But they want to hear something new and refreshing … or probably they want some hope. Just like what they find with Susan’s roar. While listening to those repetative comments on the issue they always see and hear on the media, they ignore or just let it pass or let them be.

These behavior is a typical pinoy. Its not the absence of knowledge but rather full of it.

The ignorance now falls on those who try to seek intelligence in themselves to answer some principles that they dont have.

Benign0 said, ” … even sadder is the inconsistency of these left-wing “cause oriented groups”. Anti Erap sila dati, ngayon kasama nila ang mga pro-Erap sa kalsada.”.

Talk about being personal. Leftist. Pro-Erap. Anti-Erap. I hope some people would really start to look on principles beyond the headlines.

Yesterday’s rally was an achievement. Those who are expecting it and comparing it to people power dies with their obssession. What is it a disgrace to the cause of resignism? What is the cause of resignism then? The effect is the call for resignation. The cause is the discovery of election fraud.

And resignation as the case of Mrs. Arroyo will always be voluntary. So get real.

The headline reads… “The Biggest Anti-Arroyo rally…” Take that.

may bago ngayon na tape, X-TAPE ni Chavit. Sus! pinalilito pa ko ng isa pang sinungaling at magnanakaw.

napakinggan ko rin ang x-tape nya, kng si erap man un, wala akong nakitang pandaraya don usapan lng ng resulta. at d ako kombensido si erap yon.

ung about sa pandak, mali ang script eh. kaya ko gawin ang mag splice ng audio. parating “oo” sagot na sinasabing erap don, pwede lng ako kumuha ng recorded public conversation ni erap na nagOO at doctorin ang audio at ako ang boses ng lalaki. computer lng katapat nyan napakadali. d pa nga sigurado si chavit kng sino si tanda. erap lng alam nya.

epaauthenticate na nila para kng peke hay naku lalo sila ididiin ng taong bayan. di naman kapaniwala si chavit ngayon kahit pakikinggan ko sya magsalita.

kng authentic naman hindi naman si erap ang issue dito, ano gagawin nila kay erap? ang pandaraya ni GMA, at ang economiya ng bansa issue naman ah. wag ng ilihis sana ng administration ang usapin.

‘cheating is wrong and should not be emulated and that my protest against the administration is for them.’ Roces.

Hindi sana ako mag-rereact because ina-idolize ko si FPJ. Pero sa sinabi ni Susan na hindi e-emulate yong cheating parang nasusuka ako. Baka nakalimutan nya yong pinamigay nyo (FPJ and partymates) before the election campain period na tag P500 in some towns of Bohol. Siguro nga, yong VOTE BUYING is not cheating! I have some proofs to confirm it. Pero, what the heck! Nobody can change the anarchist’s perception because ‘THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE’aldready.

haaaaay….

nagrarally…

wala namang plano….

sana kahit konting plano para sa bansa meron.

if we’re going to offer an alternative let us sell the idea to the people and show them that its better than what we have right now.

we dont even agree amongst ourselves if its going to be a transitional/revolutionary government or whatever…

lets not segregate knowledge from the people.

we know better then lets share it.

the fact that we cant answer the platforms of our “new government” just means we cant stand up for a logical debate or arguments.

sayang ang mga rally…

Ang Malungkot na OFW

Ako’y isang hamak na OFW lamang.
Boses ko’y ayaw pakikinggan.
Marahil s’guroy kaliwa’t kanang iringan,
Walang humpay na batikusan.

Dapat sana ako ay masaya
Dahil ang pera kong ipapadala,
Lumalaking parang dambuhala.
Dahil sa peso’y bumaba na.

Sige, sige! Mag-rally pa tayo!
Nang lalong sumadsad ang Peso.
Nakararaming Pilipino’y
Ito’y namay gusto.

Hingi ko lang wa’g nyo po
Kaming kalilimutan
Dahil remittance namin
Ay bumubuhay sa Inang Bayan

Ilang beses na naming napatunayan,
Asian Financial Crisis
Ang Pinas ang di masyadong naapektuhan.
Kami bayani na dapat tatandaan.

Ako’y nalulungkot at nagdalamhati
Sa Pinas ayaw ng employer kung puti.
Pag-hire nila dito’y masama’t
Walang ikakabuti.

Tanong ko kung bakit?
Gulo daw ay laging nang-aakit.
Hindi naman nila nasabing dahil sa ‘Gloriagate’
At lalong hindi sa jueting na ginigiit.

Sayang ang Pinoy ang ambisyo’y makalabas,
Biktima sila sa gulong dinadanas.
Sabagay matagal na tayong bagsak.
Ikinalulungkot ko’y Pinoy rin ang nagpapa-unlak.

Malaking boses o hindi, ito’y di basehan,
Matalino ma’t mangmang ay wala sa usapan.
Ang malaking tanong ko’y ating pag-isipan.
Pinoy ano bang maitutulong mo sa ekonomiya
ng ating BAYAN?

noelet, believe me, ive never seen an apologist as passionate as you are. you are right in observing that the audience roared when they heard something new and refreshing; and then became inattentive when the trapos started talking about what they (the audience) already knew. but i nearly fell of my chair when you said “These behavior is a typical pinoy. Its not the absence of knowledge but rather full of it.” helllloooo! parang kahapon lang, i was in your shoes. i’ve seen these trapos piggy back to these events. i detested these opportunistic zealots. and you know what? i did they same thing that you did. apologise for them. well, well, well. a few months later nakaupo na sila sa puwesto. if i were you, id say to these opportunists who have unclean hands “GET OUT OF MY SIGHT!!”

jonathan, pinoy knows the issue. but the era of spontaneity has already eludes us. the rally has a single voice and that’s to show disgust to GMA. those oppurtunist, let them be. well, its really hard to tackle all the problem at once. for one, GMA is not cooperating.

i assure you that those socalled paid rallyist are contemplating on the issues at home. at home were they felt their thoughts more secure and free from government-back wiretapping.

yes i would reiterate my claim that pinoys have knowledge. its the leaders that dont. well, we are now behind the people power era and today only brute power is more animate than the truth.

we saw what marcos did. total brute force. remember that martial rule is constitutional. marcos used the constitution to his own benefit. just like GMA is doing now.

but the general public knows the truth about malacanan and their not happy. the surveys shows this. and im not apologistic about it. the rally is of a different matter and should be taken with consideration to pinoy values.

I joined the rally at AYALA basically to exercise my right as a Filipino citizen,taxpayer and finally as a voter for purposes of demanding Gloria to resign on account of her loss of moral ascendancy to govern our country.

The numbers in Ayala could have swelled further if not for the combined AFP/PNP efforts in actively preventing other rallyist in the provinces and neighboring cities and municipalities to participate.

Even the passenger jeepney that I was riding from QC to Manila was not spared from the occular inspection of searching for red banners and streamers.

Yes, instead of bombs or guns or canons or molotov bombs, the bopols were searching for protest/rally materials. And they have the gall to say that they are just performing their duties per the ” intelligence” they have gathered.

Unverified reports reached us that Manila Mayor Lito Atienza issued a directive to police authorities preventing Manilans to join the rally. But, this coming saturday, the employees of Manila City Hall are being enticed to join the PRO-GMA rally at Qurino Grandstand,Luneta under the promised that they will be given Php 2,000 each. Said amount to be paid shall be taken from the the Clean and Green Program of the Mayor.
PCIJ should consider investigating thi, if indeed this is true.

Going back to AYALA RALLY, Did i get paid or received Php 300, as what some bloggers posted, as a renumeration for joining the said rally?

A big resounding NO. Humbly aside, I even had to shell out my hard earned money to treat a bunch of hungry anti-gloria rallyists to a feast of kikiam and fishball incidentally sold by Aling Gloria.

Even I’m Php 285 poorer because of the no work policy implemented by my employer, at least, I’m patriotically refreshed.

[...] In the same event yesterday in Malacañang the President also dared those who want her to step down, "Show me the plan." Just a day earlier Ayala Avenue and Paseo de Roxas in Makati were filled with protesters demanding for Arroyo to quit her office amid allegations of wholesale fraud in the 2004 elections. [...]

BENIGNO, makinig ka noong una akong mag-post dito sa pcij- iminungkahi ko sa ating mga kababayan na sa halip na rally ang ating gawin upang ipakita ang ating pagtutol kay GMA ay magsagawa tayo ng isang linggo (7 ) araw na pagtigil sa tayo, walang aalis ng bahay,, tindera sa palengke,nag-oopisina, driver, manggagawa lahat lahat na maliban sa ospital at idagdag na rin natin ang bumbero, walang mamimili at walang magbebenta.. ibig sabihin patay ang ekonomiya, sabi ng iba, e kung matanggal ako sa trabaho,,, hehe .. di nagutom ako …yung mga mandurukot huwag munang mandukot, mangilin tayo isang linggo lang … ito ang ipalit natin sa rally… magugutom nga kami.. magugutom nga pero hindi pa tayo mamatay,magiging buto at balat tayo pero hindi tayo madededbol, ang gulo mo…Yan ay kung kaya ng sambayanan palagay ko ay hindi… bakit? mas madali kasi ang maglakad ng isang araw o dalawa sa edsa kesa hindi magtrabaho ng isang linggo, pagkatapos kasi nito pahinga ka na, pero hindi kumita ng isang linggo, napakahirap, mainam yung mga mayayaman na kagaya ni JONATHAN .. Pero ayaw ng taong bayan na makinig mas gusto nila talaga ang mag-rally. Kaya JONATHAN , BENIGNO sa halip na sumbatan nyo ng sumbatan ang ating mga kababayan na tumigil sa pa-mamartsa ay magsuhestiyon kayo ng dapat na gawin.. Hindi yang kung alipustain nyo ang mga kababayan natin ay parang hindi ka Pilipino. Kung gusto mong baguhin ang ugali ng isang 25 anyos na tao, kailangan mo ring ng 25 taon para siya mabago… Mga utoy… tigil na.

Leo, ilang beses na ba tayo nagpalit ng gobyerno sa pamamagitan ng pagmamartsa? me nangyari ba sa buhay mo? ang laban ko ay hindi pro o anti gloria. sapagkat personality change lang yan. kaya tayo may batas ay para doon malutas ang ganitong klaseng problema. ang pinoproblema ko ay ang ating ekonomiya. ang pilipinas ay parang isang bata na hindi makatulog o makakain dahil palaging nag-aaway ang mga magulang, kaya hindi siya lumalaki. sabi mo nagugutom kayo, o wala kayong trabaho. sa pagmamartsa ba makakamit natin ang hinanaing mo? pinatakot lang natin ang mga kapitalista at foreign investors sa ginagawa natin. alalahanin mo hindi lang tayo ang sumosuyo sa mga investors na ito. andiyan ang vietnam at tsina na ang pasweldo ay mura pa sa atin. sila ang humahalakhak sa mga pangyayaring ito.

Where All This Leads To?

As they say, history repeats itself. A deja vu feeling sets in while I size up the precarious situation we are in now. We’re back circa Nov. 2000 when the nation faced the dilemma of impeaching the sitting president Erap Estrada. The question is, does history will really repeat itself? In other words, does the present situation lead to an impeachment in Congress? If GMA is impeached, does it lead to a conclusive trial and conviction in the Senate? If not, does it all end up in another Edsa-like uprising? I’m pretty sure that all these possible scenarios play in my mind of our concerned citizens today.

But let me assess first the situation. Two factions of the opposition is present - one, resign-gloria-noli-takeover group of Cory/Drilon/Hyatt 10/MBC and two, resign-gloria-junta/council govt. of “mainstream” opposition of Erap/Eddie Vill/Rightists/Leftists and all other “tists”. With all the rallies mounted by the “mainstream” opposition, Gloria is at her pedestal. With the kamikaze calls of resignation of Hyatt 10/Cory/Drilon, still she was saved by the bell of another Eddie, the steady Eddie ex-president Ramos, seconded by the Jedi council head, Yoda, err, De Venecia.

With the military waiting (or intently watching)in the sidelines by insisting that they be apolitical, and with the bishops call not for GMA to resign but to resort to a constitutional process, thus, the opposition was left with no other recourse but to resort to the inevitable process of impeachment.

Judging with the Erap trial, this may take at least another 3 agonizing months if ever this will come into a conviction or acquittal. And again judging from the way the “Hello Garci tape” hearing is conducted in the House, i wondered if ever this may result in an impeachment. Therefore, i can draw up four (4)possible scenarios; immediate, short-term, medium-term and long term resolution of the crises.

Immediate Resolution

That Pres. Gloria will resign before the SONA on July 25. She will come to realize that it is no longer tenable to continue to govern the country and ask for sincere forgiveness, once and for all. With this statesmanship act, she will be allowed to travel to the U.S. to be with his Mike and son.

Short-Term Resolution

That PGMA will watch whether she can still muster enough loyal congressman to her side to prevent the impending impeachment. With the tight grip of the House, wherein congressmen might not support the impeachment move because of the charter change proposal of FVR where they all can benefit, they might as well kill the impeachment at the Justice committee deliberations. Therefore, the impeachment move is dead as well as the hopes of the bishops for a peaceful resolution of the conflict.

The opposition will not let this sitting down and once and all, call a last showdown in the street, ala-EDSA IV in the making. Following the “second envelope” situation like the Erap trial, they will mount daily rallies which will now be attended by the middle forces, silent majority, and all like-minded citizens who want the due process to continue. If there is a snowballing effect on these rallies, the military and the bishops will call the “withdrawal of support” which the opposition is waiting since Day one of the crisis. Bye-bye Gloria if this blueprint will happen.

Medium-Term Resolution

After so many hours and days debating on the complaint and with the very strong public-pressure, the president will be impeached in the House and the complaint transmitted to the Senate. GMA realizing the futility of going to a very sure conviction trial because of the lost majority in the Senate, will ultimately call it quits. Now she realizes she can’t win the battle in the minority-controlled Senate after the defection of Drilon et al.

Or perhaps she will go for a trial, hoping that perhaps she can persuade to her side one or two Senators in the minority (possibly Enrile and Angara who supported the charter change proposal of De Venecia) and tip the balance in favor of her acquittal. But with the overwhelming evidence and guilty-verdict of the public, this will result to a massive howl of protest which will again culminate in the streets. As if in cue, the military and the bishops will save the day for the beleaguered republic, as if they hold the key to the resolution of all political conflicts.

Long-Term Resolution

This may result in a trial but it drags on and on for months. Why? first they still want to confer with the Supreme Court whether the wiretap tapes is admissible or inadmissible in court. If admissible, the pro-gma may still want them first to be authenticated to FBI/Scotland Yard before this is being used in the trial. Before they can reached a verdict or resolution, the House will now be then finished with their Cha-cha thru Constituent Assembly and will now have a new Constitution ready for a plebiscite before year end. The people will now have lost their appetite for the continuation of the trial and will accept the parliamentary/federalism form of govt.

However, they will only realize later that the Cha-cha is being used only to bring back the government of Ramos with perhaps a term-sharing of De Venecia as prime minister for life.

Thus, ALL IS WELL THAT DOES NOT ENDS WELL.

Sorry my folks, but I’m beginning to believe what I’ve heard from a foreigner….”That the Philippines is a beautiful country but is not blessed with good leaders”.

Actually, the fragmentism of the opposition is irrelevant. The question of “are the opposition prepared?” is just a bruhaha-speech of Malacanan trying to lure perception that the enemy of the state wants the country in peril.

The succession to Noli if GMA resigns is not really an option of the opposition, nor by Cory/Drilon/etc. Its really a constitutional remedy given that the president resigns.

The creation of a transitory gov’t is a more complex task and closer to impossible at the moment. that is an extra-constitutional step. right?

[…] President also dared those who want her to step down, “Show me the plan.” Just a day earlier Ayala Avenue and Paseo de Roxas in Makati were filled with protesters demanding for Arroyo to quit her office amid allegations of wholesale fraud in the 2004 elections. […]

Exactly why on Earth is the need for the opposition to have a plan? And coming from Gloria, the pleading becomes ironic. Its not as if when the opposition got a good plan that Gloria will resign… that’s not what she’s been proclaiming.

The demand must come from the people… from the opposition: Gloria, what is your plan? You said the whole cabinet will tender their resignation? But they are still the same faces at your core official family. Was it another lie?

Gloria what is plan, shows us… to see the country loose itself in oblivion? to sow division among our people?

Jonathan, malayo ang sagot mo sa tanong ko? Ang sabi ko noong una akong mag-post sa pcij, malinaw ang sabi ko … huwag na lang tayong mag-rally, tumigil na lang tayo sa bahay…walang papasok sa trabaho, walang mandurukot, ospital lang at bumbero ang bukas para sa may sakit at baka magkasunog.. Pero ayaw ngang tumigil ng mga kababayan natin… Ang tanong nga e bakit,,, bakit ayaw nilang tumigil, ??? nakuha mo ba, ngayon dahil sa ayaw nilang tumigil , ibig bang sabihin e mga gago sila, mga tanga, mga inutil, mga panatiko… yun ang sinasabi ko sa iyo.. tigilan mo ang pag-alipusta sa kapwa mo Pilipino… Kasalanan ba nila na may lumabas na tape na naging dahilan para sila ay mag-martsa…. Sentido komon, kasalanan ng dimonyong tao kung sino man siya na naglabas ng tape at ng mga taong nakapaloob sa tape. kuha mo… ngayon paano natin sasawayin ang mga kababayan nating ito, paano….iyan ang isipin mo… huwag yung ekonomiya na sinasabi mo, malayo ka pa doon, magsimula tayo sa tao, kahit isang milyon pang investor ang dumating sa atin at walang taong gustong magtrabaho para dito…. uunlad ba ito .. di ba hindi .. dahil walang tao… sus ginoo.. baguhin mo ang post mo… ikaw ang magsimulang magbago para sumunod sila… simple lang sa halip na sabihin mo sa mga sulat mo na …. sarap ng naka erkon…. puwede mo namang sabihin na…. mapalad po ako at nakapagtrabaho ng maayos at maayos naman ang takbo ng buhay, subalit nalulungkot din po ako sapagkat alam kong marami tayong kababayan na nagdarahop…. Ipagtatayo ka nila ng rebulto JONATHAN……. kuha mo…. sa hinaba haba ng post mo dito sa pcij…. meron bang natutunan ang mga sumasagot sa mga sulat mo??? wala puro galit at ngitngit sa yo… kuha mo utoy….

benigno,

alam mo benigno kung di ka makatiis d2 sa pilipinas lumayas ka d2!!! sobra kang manlait ano ba akala mo sa mga pilipino pera pera lang . hoy hinde lahat ng sumama sa rally sa ayala pera lang ang katapat. wag mo kameng itulad sayo aircon lang pala ang katapat mo, cheap mo…kanya kanya tayong paninindigan d2 at wag mo kameng pakielaman!!!!

I think, Jonathan and Benigno just looked on our country’s problem in a different perspective. They are on the practical side just like most of the people who benifits from Arroyo’s stay in power. Of course they have businesses, they’re more cautious on our country’s economy, or else the business will suffer.

Transition in government will definitely cripple our economy and will take years to regain. It wont be allowable for people like these two.

They still could have that sense of nationalism, but its not their prime priority. What they want is for us simple pinoys to see that most of us loses practikalidad and sense of urgency to rise from poverty.

Totoong nakakainggit ung mga mayayaman at madali ring sabihin sa min na bat di na lang magtrabaho etc. pr umasenso. Well, most of us ganon ang dereksyon, ky lang pano kb naman yayaman sa karampot na sweldong binibigay ng mga katulad nyong negosyante? Pero wag kayong mag-alala, marami kaming paraan para umasenso, sa matuwid na paraan.

Actually, madaling yumaman sa Pilipinas, kung magaling kang manggulang, dahil maraming tanga rito, porke salat nga sa edukasyon, pinagsasamantalahan ng mga mayayamang edukado. Gaya ng mga sinasabi nating hakot, biktima sila ng pagsasamantala, gutom, at kawalang prinsipyo nilang mahihirap dahil sa kahirapan.

Tamang maging praktikal para umanlad ang isang tao. Pero minsan ang praktikalidad, kakambal ng pagsasamantala o immoralidad. Gaya ng gusto ng ibang mangyari sa ngayon, hayaan nating umandar ang ekonomiya habang nagbubulagbulagan tayo na pinatatakbo ang gobyerno at kaban ng bayan ng mga Pulitikong mandaraya, ipokrito, sinungaling, at magnanakaw.

Kabayang Jonathan at Benigno, tingnan natin sa perspective nyo ang Pilipinas. Sabihing nating ang bansa ay isang Kumpanya, at si Gloria ang CEO at department heads naman ang cabinet officials nya, at kaming mga tax payers ang capitalista, tingin mo ba sa moralidad at prinsipyo ng mga taong to eh kikita ang negosyo. E siguradong pagkatapos ng termino, limas na ang pera sa bangko, pati petty cash tangay at puro accounts payable sa ibang bansa ang matitira, eh di bankrupt na naman! Walang nangyari sa investment nating mga pinoy. Walang ibang gagawin ang pinunong dinaya ang pagkapanalo kundi ang mandaya ng mandaya sa pansariling kapakanan at bumuo ng paniguraduhang dynastiya nang lumawig ang kanilang kapangyarihan sa mga susunod pang henerasyon.

Sa negosyanteng katulad nyo, napaka importante ng integridad ng mga empleyado dahil gusto nyong siguraduhin na hindi magnanakaw ang mga ito.

Ganun din ang gustong mangyari ng mga karaniwang mamayan, dahil sa investment namin ang pinatatakbo ng gobyerno para kumita ang bansa, karapatan naming piliin ang magpapatakbo rito sa pamamagitan ng eleksyon, at kung makitang nandaraya, sisantehen. Kaming mga tax payers ang may karapatan pr manawagan sa kanilang pag-bibitiw, hindi kayong mayayamang walang tamang investment sa tax. DB?

Sa kaunlaran ng isang bansa, kritikal na aspeto ang moralidad, disiplina at prinsipyo, at kailangang magmula ito sa mga pinuno, at dapat namang pamarisan at sundin ng mga mamayan. Mas madali naman sigurong makinig sa taong may integridad kesa sa taong “Bastos at Walang Modo”, sabi yan ni Inday.

Totoo rin na ilang beses na tayong nagpatanggal ng presidente, at hindi matatapos yon hanggat may mandaraya at kurakot, may magrarally para tanggalin ang anay ng kumpanya. At yun ang leksyon na dapat matutunan ng mga susunod na CEO ng bansa, ang maging matuwid para di masisante.

At kung sana, magbago pa ang ihip ng hangin at matanggal lahat ng kurakot, at magtuloy tuloy ito, Yaaaaan! uunlad ang negosyo, at wag kayong mag-aalala, pati taong grasa, me sariling aircon sa kariton nya. he he he!

Peace Brother!

Sir lumang gawain na ng Manila City Hall yung meron function ang mayor sa isang sabado na meron tinatanggap yung mga nagsipunta. Sayang nga naman ang pera kung ang kinakailangan lamang ay magpakita. Yan ang dahilan kung bakit mataas ang attendance ng mga empleyado ng pamahalaang lokal sa mga ganyang okasyon.

timawang_batas said,

July 15, 2005 @ 12:57 pm

Unverified reports reached us that Manila Mayor Lito Atienza issued a directive to police authorities preventing Manilans to join the rally. But, this coming saturday, the employees of Manila City Hall are being enticed to join the PRO-GMA rally at Qurino Grandstand,Luneta under the promised that they will be given Php 2,000 each. Said amount to be paid shall be taken from the the Clean and Green Program of the Mayor.

“yung dagdag, yung dagdag sa Quirino Grandstand, kulang pa ng rallysta, dagdagan pa natin ng 1 million”: Yes (male voice) Mam, on the way na po yung dagdag, eh problem kasi yung pangako ni ancheta na 200,000 na aatend eh mukhag di kaya. Pero don’t worry mam (GMA) meron prayer rally sa kabila baka puede natin kausapin..(GMA) Aahh, O, sige, sige. 07 016 2005 18:05

PR campaign ni GMA sa foreign country is in full force. Negative news about GMA is hardly pikced-up by major outfits (ie CNN) but just last night, Veronica Pedrosa is interviewing Teves doing a suttle PR job for her excellency GMA.

As before, they would say one thing here sa Philippines and then would tell another thing sa foreign community. Me hinala ako na meron silang connection sila sa CNN at Bloomberg.

Magkano kaya ang PR fund ni GMA excluding the soft-fund / contributed services from her allies sa Media and other “Thief in Barong”

It is not surprising to see if these (from Benign0) papers paints a negative pictures to those anti-GMA movements.

(http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2005/07/13/chants
(http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F50756CE-56F3-4759-B6A4-AC8015 95BB12.htm)
(http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/World/GG14Wd02.html)

Yung mga nag mamarunong diyan na sa Manila lang daw maingay at normal naman sa ibang panig ng Pilipinas, gumising nga kayo. AKo po ay taga probinsiya rin pero di po yan titigil sa akon na mag pahayag sang akong nabatyagan..gets niyo. Ito kasing mga Governors and Mayors natin lagi sinasabi na ang mga nasasakupan nila ay di naman gusto ang ginagawa ng mga taga Maynila..hay, nagsalita ang mga idiots..sa totoo lang ha..ni hindi nga nila alam ang tunay na damdamin ng mga constituents nila dahil di naman sila nag tatake time na pakinggan ang mga ito. Ang lagi nilang bukam bibig ay personal nilang opinion at hindi ng mga nasasakupan nila…ituloy po ang laban para sa ating mga kabataan, sa ikakauunlad ng bayan at sa ikabubuti ng mga mamamayan. Mahirap po ang daan pero kailangan nating tahakin..and I am happy, kasi ang mga tao sa Maynila ay may tapang na tahakin ito..di tulad ng iba diyan na bahag ang buntot at laging walang pakialam..binabasa mo ba ito?..kung nabasa mo, tanong ko sayo..taga saan ka?…ano po?..taga probinsiya?..ano?..taga Maynila?…mali pong pareho..taga Pilipinas po tayo?

i am a typical mother of two kids aged 20 & 15 a boy 4th ab pol sci student and a girl 4th year hi school both studying in a catholic school. i haved observed to my two kids are both aware of the situation i mean issues i our country. now my point of view is our problem is no joke anymore. malala na. i’ve read blog of my 15 yr old daughter regarding pgma and i qoute ” our pod (perfect of discilpine) punished us whenever we caught cheating or even suspend us. is it that our pod is wiser than pgma or vice versa or we just say sorry and forgive the violation committed”. what i am trying to imply is aroyo must set as am example to our youth. bad influence for a leader like her. about the rally in makati my son went there without my knowlede. he went there with some of his classmates in pol sci. sasabihen nyo extravagant eh wala naman pera yung bata. sarile nyang pera at pagkain. i even told him not to go there baka magulo. sabi nya punta sya out of conviction. i respect his opinion. gloria/noli resign sya and snap election ang gusto nya pero sabi nya dapat linisin din ang comelec para wala ng dayaan.

almaeg, MA’AM, i admire your kids. you have made them grow up well.

more power

hello eyesWIDEopen! thanks really i am proud of them. pls try to visit their blogs if you’re not so busy. i assure you its interesting and not boring.
blogs:
http://howard-the-duck.blogspot.com - find the topic “what comes around goes around”
http://myownheaven01.blogspot.com - read the sentiment of a 15 year old senior student about hello garci tape entiltled “Lupang Hinirang”.
good luck! hope you succeed in all your endeavors. pray a lot ok? good day and God bless!

hmmm. i find insight from a 15-year old and i quote

“and if, and only if, she can still enjoy the power, fame and money she has, disregardful of the fact that bringing her to that pleasure was against the law and God’s law, then let it be! she has done it; she is intelligent enough. besides, she is the president, and we are just the people in whom she is responisble of, first and foremost before her earthly pleasures.”

Ma’am almaeg, i can see that your kids are indeed a blessing to you. Thanks, reading through their blogs… indeed they are a blessing to us too.

God bless you.

Gng.ALMAEG

Magandang araw po sa inyo……
Nakagagalak mabasa ang inyong mga kuwento patungkol sa inyong mga anak..(ipaabot na lang po ang aking pangungumusta sa kanila)..
Sa mga katulad po nila, at sa mga magulang na katulad niyo, nakasalalay ang “KATOTOHANAN”…..sa pag-aanalisa at pagpapahayag ng mga tunay na pangyayari sa yugto’ng ito ng ating buhay…..
Na kahit na “mapagtakpan” ang mga MALING GAWAIN sa ngayon…..mai-pagpapatuloy nila ang laban para sa KATOTOHANAN……

MABUHAY PO KAYO AT ANG INYONG MGA ANAK NA MAY PANININDIGAN PARA SA KATOTOHANAN!!!!!!
SALUDO PO AKO…

Too bad the opposition cannot even muster enough people to attend its rallies without the usual tawdry extravaganza of inviting aging and colorless movie stars. Susan Rocies may be an exception, but she needs to accept her late husband lost the elections and there is no use
dragging herself out and being exploited by the opposition to fire up a cause that has not gone anywhere.

On one point, we all need to heed Susan’s advice: Employ peaceful means provided by the Constitution to impeach President Arroyo, if there is any credible evidence. Lacson, Pimentel and their minions are reluctant to explore this knowing that tape was illegally tapped and cannot be used in any court of law. All we have is hysteria, with the opposition groups failing miserably to rile up the citizens against the president.

We need to banish the movie stars from any serious discussion of
national issues. Dancing, singing and shaking hands will not substitute for what they don’t have upstairs.

you nailed it right, raymond!

[...] The CPR policy was announced by Malacañang in September last year, following anti-government protests that began as the Gloriagate controversy broke out (here and here) and continuing amid the Congressional hearings on impeachment charges against the President. The impeachment charges were killed in July. [...]